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what do you think it is about musicians

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and artists I mean I if I went back in

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my catalog of shows I would say like a

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healthy 30 40 percent have been

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musicians or are an artist of some kind

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what do you think that says about these

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phenomena and those who seem to want to

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pursue that mystery I guess

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well I think I think

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um as an artist when you're when you're

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creating things uh it depends on

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you know how you view what creativity is

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and where it comes from and so forth but

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I think

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um it feels like channeling to us to an

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extent and it keeps your mind in an open

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uh in an open state so in order to

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for what I do improvising

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like you have to be open to all

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possibilities in that moment and you

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have to also initialize something you

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have to start with something and as you

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start you build on it because you're

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kind of listening to possibilities and

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those things are collapsing into the

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higher probabilities and then you just

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kind of you know allow those

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probabilities to kind of flow through

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you and so I think that that

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element oh and then also the dreaming

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you know the not quoting the Sandman but

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like like the the dreaming element of

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being an artist of visualizing a world

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uh imagining a scenario seeing certain

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things it's very like big open

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imaginative and you understand the power

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of of Limitless possibility and I think

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that the idea that we're just yeah you

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know some

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some organisms you know with an

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endoskeleton walking around just trying

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to survive and procreate like I think

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that that's boring I think that that's

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very boring because why are we even able

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to think about those things why am I

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able to think about the thing that I'm

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thinking about that I am you know and I

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think that those are the questions that

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artists think about and the same thing

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with Scientists you know as I've said

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science and art those are the only two

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things that really matter

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everything is in between those things

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and but they're both interchangeable

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um because science creates well science

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reveals fantastic things that we

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that we may most of us may not ever

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imagine

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um artists are able to

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tap into and project Concepts that might

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be real

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so the two of them together it's great

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it's like it's empirical but it's also

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Visionary and uh but the empirical

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evidence also which is great about

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science is that they don't say that they

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know anything for sure it's like we just

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know what we know in this given time and

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these are all this is the consensus of

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where we're at right now our

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understanding could change because our

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theoretical element is now saying wow

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maybe it could be this could be a

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product of this it's theoretical and

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then we invent some instruments or

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whatever and then something we're like

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actually a little bit of that theory is

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true and then it evolves so and art kind

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of does the same thing and that

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techniques evolve ways of representing

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things evolve uh you know uh it's it's a

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never-ending Cascade of possibility uh

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when it comes to what art can create and

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what it can project and how it affects

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people and the same thing with science

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science is like well we're curious we

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want to find stuff out but we also want

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to be empirical about it and um and both

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methods are very very interrelated

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because they they Inspire one another

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you know spaceship design is inspired by

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earlier science fiction writers science

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fiction science fiction writers write

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about certain formations of hierarchical

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society or non-hierarchical society and

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then suddenly down the line there's a

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civilization that starts using some of

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those ideas or whatever you know what I

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mean it's like they they all influence

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each other